Great Place. We have been a member of Victory Martial Arts Leon Springs going for 18 months. I can’t say enough on how pleased we are with the results we have seen with our children. Our family members are so impressed with our children behavior, attitude and respectfulness that they want us to take their children for the summer so Mr. Turner can use his magic on them. I decided to also practice at Victory earlier this year, and since then I have lost over 15lbs and several inches off my waist (which my wife is very pleased). Victory’s schedule and programs are very flexible which allows are family to practice together, but also allows the children and myself to have their own small classes (we have a 3yr old boy and 4 yr old girl). Additionally my wife and I can spend some quality time together attending Kickboxing class with the other parents. Once a month the Victory staff provides a parent’s night out which allows my wife and I to have some “us time”. The kids have such a great time during “parents’ night out” that they do not want to leave. I can write pages and pages on the benefits of joining Victory Martial Arts, all I need to say the staff of Victory Martial Arts (Mr. Elder, Mr. Turner, Mr. Wilson, Ms Collins and Ms. Samon) are one o f the bests I have dealt with.
Wonderful Extra-Curricular Activity.
My husband and I enrolled our son in the Victory Martial Arts (VMA) program at the Shavano Park location (2854 Hunters Green) about a year ago. Although the program is more expensive than other activities we could have enrolled our son in, we looked at what the program had to offer, observed classes, asked LOTS of questions, and have never regretted our decision!
At first we signed him up only for the Masters Club classes but within the first month we added the Leadership program as well. We are SO glad we did!! We have seen a big change in our son. Yes, we teach our son the same lessons at home as they do at VMA but having them reinforced helps a lot. I know part of the changes in our son are due to the natural growing up process going from age 4 to age 5. But the discipline of going two days each week and the lessons that are taught have helped tremendously. Also, Mr. Wilson, Miss Kilar, and Mr, Hopkins have had a VERY positive effect on our son and he misses them if he misses class.
I have read other reviews and would like to address some of the concerns mentioned in them. As far as the sales tactics of Mr. Price, at first we were also taken aback but realized we were there for our son and would research the program fully before judging him. Once we enrolled our son, we spoke with Mr. Price about his enrollment process rather than run away from a program that would benefit our son. Since we started, my husband and I have developed a relationship with Mr. Price and it seems to me that if some of you would have done the same, you would not have had to involve lawyers. I’m sure Mr. Price did not physically force you to do anything. Don't blame VMA or Mr. Price for signing a contract that you did not have to sign.
As far as kids being trained by kids, I have not always been happy with kids teaching kids either. But Mr. Wilson explained to me that it’s part of their own training. When I feel that the junior instructor does something that I don’t agree with, I either talk with the junior instructor or Mr. Wilson. My experience is that Mr. Wilson observes the junior instructors and leads by example in order to teach them the correct way of doing things. Mr. Wilson is the lead instructor and I would not want anyone else being the lead instructor for my son. The kids, parents, and all the instructors respect him and he respects them all in return. Once I address an issue it’s taken care of. Some of you may be thinking that if we pay for a program why are there issues? The issues change, of course, depending on the program, class, sport, or activity that your child is enrolled in, but I don’t know of ANY program that is perfect and without some issues.
Also, have you never heard that many times kids respond better to other kids than adults? By the way, in the Leadership class, different students take part in teaching a small part of the class as well. The experience teaches all of them to be better leaders. Isn’t this what we want for our children? Not everyone is signed up for Leadership class. But it does not mean that the parents of those children do not want their children to be leaders. It could just be a financial decision or a time constraint issue. But those children who are in the Leadership class are definitely benefitting from it.
One of the people who posted said, “if you want to improve your child’s behavior, you need to step up”. Well it takes a village right? All people, including children, are affected by those around us. If my son is surrounded by some strict discipline for a little bit of time each week, great! I feel that my husband and I are reinforcing the lessons taught at VMA, as well as teaching our own lessons. We want the best for our son. That’s why he is enrolled at VMA Shavano Park!!
Great program. My son and I were offered a free one month trial of the program, which is how I was introduced to the program. I was a little hesitant at first, my son is only 3 1/2 but they assured my that they could handle that. My son is extremely hyper active, slightly ADHD, and does not listen very well. The first class we went to he literally rolled around on the floor the whole time. We've been at it for 6 weeks now and my son is actually starting to listen and participate in class. After the first week I could already see a difference. I think it is great that he has an outlet for his energy and the teacher is excellent at getting him to focus. When we went to sign up they wanted me to do the 3 year contract (which is for a black belt). I was not comfortable with committing to that length of time (my son is a little young and doesn't recognize the significance of a black belt yet). Instead I opted for a 1 year contract so we could see how it goes. So far I am really impressed with the staff and the program. You can tell they really love the kids and try to make it fun for them. On average there have been about 12-15 kids in each class we've gone to. My son really enjoys it and I am thankful because his behavior is really improving.
Deceiving Tactics. We went to the VMA located at 2854 Hunters Green St on a Friday night. At first the instructor Mr. Price was very polite and very salesman like when it came to the contract. When we asked about being locked into their contract for 3 years and if there was a possibility of canceling, he never gave us a direct answer. We really wanted to have our girls in a positive program so we signed the contract. That Saturday morning @ 7a.m., I left a message for Mr. Price stating that we had concerns about committing to a 3 year contract and also the extra cost for their equipment @ $500.00 per child!! Mr. Price returned my call and offered a 90 day free trail and if we still did not want to commit, he would accept that and the contract would be terminated. My husband and I continued to discuss the program and extra costs and we decided not to go through with it. I left a message for Mr. Price Saturday night @5:30 p.m. to make arrangements to drop off the unused uniforms and pick up my deposit. I did not hear from him Monday morning so I phoned him @ around 11 a.m. to tell him again of our decision. The conversation went bad and he began to tell me that he already processed the contract and I would have to deal with Mr. Elder to terminate it. I reminded him how he said he would hold the contract until we made our decision. He just said he turned it in that Saturday and he couldn't do anything about it. Luckly, we have 72 (business) hours to change our minds and I contacted him well before 72 hours. I am furious, but I am glad that I encountered this situation now and not when I would have truly been committed to the company. I will not recommend Victory Martial Arts to anyone and I will let everyone I know, know about this situation we had to deal with. Mr. Price did not want to lose his commisson and thought we were bound by the contract. He was so wrong. I made sure to copy letters, take notes and send letters through certified mail. Be aware, read other reviews. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS COMPANY. They are deceiving and will not give you direct answers. I believe they are salesman first, then instructors!
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